Comments on: Lost: The Man Behind the Curtain

By: Yoda Puncher

Yoda Puncher — Thu, 17 May 2007 12:50:26 +0000

Hunter: Its clear that you are a republican. Your right wing opinion is getting in the way of the facts.

Its obvious that Commander Kirk is responsible for the pirates losing their ship and getting stuck on the island.

By: Hunter Maxin

Hunter Maxin — Fri, 11 May 2007 13:08:32 +0000

Re: Locke as Jacob…

I’m assuming a lot of people umped on this because the foreheads are so similar, but the chins are definitiely different. The noses are close, but, again, not the same.

Of course, there could be prostetics at work here, but I have to concur…Locke is NOT Jacob, Jacob is not Locke.

By: E

Thu, 10 May 2007 19:11:46 +0000

Ooh! and I forgot about the circle of ash(?) surrouding Jacob’s place. In Magic, that’s a way of trapping a spirit. If the circle is broken, the spirit, demon, whatever is set free…

By: Seth

Seth — Thu, 10 May 2007 19:00:20 +0000

@Hunter - great minds ;-). I was hitting “submit” as you posted your Hostiles-as-Pirates theory.

By: Seth

Seth — Thu, 10 May 2007 18:59:27 +0000

@Hunter - I’ll go one step further and throw out the wild thought that they’re not just descendants, they ARE the pirates, hence the no aging. I don’t _really_ believe this, but it’d be fun (also, the old haircut fits).

@RSL - you’re right, Ben did lie about the island birth. But I think he’s lying by not telling Locke and the Hostiles/Others the full truth about Jacob and DHARMA.

By: Hunter Maxin

Hunter Maxin — Thu, 10 May 2007 18:57:24 +0000

RSL - In the words of Obi-wan Kenobi, “it all depends on your point of view.”

The Ben we know was “born” the moment he betrayed the DI with the purge, much like Darth Vader “betrayed and murdered” Anakin Skywalker. Semantics, I know.

Slap Bet says Locke lives.

The more I ruminate on this, I think the Island prolongs the life (or halts agining completely) the second you become in tune with the Island. The Others (Hostiles) are one with the island (a la Jacob, perhaps) and don’t age. Ben stopped aging after his betrayal of Dharma.

And on that line of thought, I’m more and more convinced that the Others ARE the survivors of the Black Rock. That screenshot of Jacob looks more and more like he’s wearing 17th-18th century garb.

By: E

Thu, 10 May 2007 18:51:50 +0000

Quite a few thoughts on your post.

First of all, if you haven’t read any Robert Anton Wilson, you should. Cosmic Trigger would be my recommendation, although The Illuminatus Trilogy is also a classic. If you dig the craziness of lost, both are worth getting your head around.

That EW article was fantastic as well. It seems a shame that it took months of negotiation to come up with a plan to end things in a way that benefits the storytelling. Maybe I’m spoiled by Vertigo Comics-style finite ongoings, but there’s probably millions of dollars more riding on Lost than on a comic book. I’m glad they worked it out though. Excited, even.

I’ve had a nagging feeling for the latter part of this season(-ette), and as of last night it’s a burning itch. Especially considering last night’s episode, I’m really looking forward to a Rousseau flashback. I’m very curious/anxious to find out how she fits in.

As for Alpert, he hasn’t aged since Suddenly Susan.

By: RSL

RSL — Thu, 10 May 2007 18:36:31 +0000

I don’t have a lot to add to your commentary but 1. I think Locke’s actually dead, 2. I do trust Jack/Juliet though I’d love it if I were proved wrong [more than if I were/am right], and 3. Ben _did_ specifically lie when he said he was born on the island. Maybe you meant that when you talked about him lying by omission but that was a direct lie.

By: Hunter Maxin

Hunter Maxin — Thu, 10 May 2007 18:02:08 +0000

Here’s a more positive contribution:

Thought - the Hostiles (the Islands original inhabitants) as descendents of the Black Rock Pirates?

By: Hunter Maxin

Hunter Maxin — Thu, 10 May 2007 15:35:57 +0000

meanwhile, the screenshot of Jacob that appeared last night.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/10/lost-diary-the-man-behind-the-curtain/#continuedcontents