Part Mop. Part Puppet. All Crazy.
There are more than a few official and unofficial Lost sites out there vying for your attention concerning The Dharma Initiative. Here is my brief breakdown of a few of these sites.
For those of you searching for more clues to the Dharma Initiative login, found at Dharma Initiative (http://www.thedharmainitiative.info/) - also linked from Dharma Industries (http://www.dharmaindustries.com/) - I’ve got some clues.
First, Dennis in the comments section of another Lost post, points out this handy, dandy hotspot graphic (or this alternate graphic, which works better for me) for all you hopless clickers. I can never seem to get any of them to work, but others are reporting success.
There’s another unofficial Dharma Initiative site at The Dharma Initiative (http://thedharmainitiative.org/). Here there is an even more vexing login screen that appears, at last check, to be pretty unbreakable. All I know is that if you click the Swan you get the Orientation video. Help is welcome and encouraged.
As for official sites, if you try to go to the secure server of the Hanso Foundation (official Lost viral site), you get a text link to
http://www.bigspaceship1.com/. BigSpaceship1.com features a flash animation of two bears and some morse code in the page title:
… — — . - .. — . … / .- / .–. — .-.. .- .-. / -… . .- .-. / .. … / .— ..- … - / .- / .–. — .-.. .- .-. / .–. . .- .-.
Here’s the translation of that morse code:
Sometimes / A / Polar / Bear / Is / Just / A / Polar / Pear
“Sometimes a Polar Bear is just a Polar Pear”
Doesn’t make sense to me, but I’m not the producers of Lost. Maybe it works as a code on oceanicflight815.com?
No dice. I tried ’sometimesapolarbearisjustapolarpear’ and ’sometimesapolarbearisjustapolarbear’ - neither worked.
If you’ve got other clues about logging in to the official or unofficial fan sites, leave a comment.
Also, if you’re interested, I’m selling Dharma Initiative T-Shirts!
UPDATE: Hunter Maxim in the comments notes that Big Spaceship1.com has changed it’s cryptic message to the following morse code:
.. -. / –. .. .-. ..- — / .. — ..- … / -. — -.-. - . / . - / -.-. — -. … ..- — .. — ..- .-. / .. –. -. ..
He translates the message as the following: “In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni”
Information on this riddle of a Latin palindrome here.
“We go into the circle by night and we are consumed by fire.”
Or, alternatively:
This famous maccaronic verse, called “the devil’s verse”, is a riddle in the form of a palindrome - literally a puzzle inside a puzzle… It means “we wander in the night, and are consumed by fire” or “we enter the circle after dark and are consumed by fire” and is said to describe the movement of months. Some others believe that it is about the ‘mayfly’, that insect that circles the fire only to be consumed by flame.
Perhaps instead of polar bears we should be concerned about mayflys or the 540-day stay for those in the hatch? Who knows at this point.
UPDATE II: Malakai, in the comments of another post, notes that the Flash file of Dharma Initiative (http://www.thedharmainitiative.info/), upon his inspection, only has 3 hotspots and never resolves. One site down, just the login/password of The Dharma Initiative (http://thedharmainitiative.org/) to go. If you’ve got clues, this would be the place to post them.
UPDATE III: If you keep mousing over the area around 7 o’clock at http://www.dharmaindustries.com/ you’ll eventually get to a screen that looks like the computer terminal inside the hatch. Enter the numbers and you’ll receive a prompt asking for a “Member ID”. I’m thinking it’s the name of the dude who “rescued” Desmond, but I don’t recall his name. Anyone?
UPDATE IV: I’ve got two recent posts up about the new Hanso Foundation site - [here] & [here].
UPDATE V: I’m closing the comments. Comment on the Hanso Foundation posts listed above. That’s an official site by the producers anyhow.
Matt
October 15th, 2005 at 11:23 pm
The pass to oceanicflight815 is theislandiswaiting
Hunter Maxin
October 16th, 2005 at 11:49 am
New code today…translates to SUCULAE, whihc literally means Suckling Pigs.
In latin, Hyades…to read more:
http://www.theoi.com/Nymphe/NymphaiHyades.html
Sjowie
October 16th, 2005 at 3:20 pm
About the login screen,
i have made a little Javascript wich checks if an individual word resembles the MD5 hash of the http://thedharmainitiative.org/ website.
you can type in whole pages and the script checks the text word by word.
If the script has found a word that resembles the MD5 hash it wil stop computing and returns the word.
(the javascriptMD5 generator is the same is the generator from the http://thedharmainitiative.org/ website.
Here is the link to my script page, feel free to extend it.
Hunter Maxin
October 16th, 2005 at 6:14 pm
And now it is:
in Girum Imus Nocte A Consumimur Igni
a palndrome, in lati, no less.
http://williambader.com/ingirum.html
Meaning, more or less “We enter the circle in the night and are consumed in fire.”
An insect? Some sites claim this is about the passage of time.
Either way, this site is both changing rapidly and offering up weird clues, if they are that. We should be checking regualrly.
Mostly Muppet Dot Com
October 16th, 2005 at 7:15 pm
Lost: Orientation
Wow!
Not exactly the episode I wanted or expected, but very good nonetheless. Again, I’ve got a list of takeaways:
Gotta love that Dharma Initiative, brought to you by the Hanso Foundation - look below the last link and you’ll find th…
le chaumois
October 19th, 2005 at 2:16 pm
Hi !
Don’t u know “in Girum Imus Nocte A Consumimur Igni” is also a film title…?
Made in 1978 by Guy Debord (95 min)
see more here: (sorry it’s french)
http://www.fluctuat.net/article.php3?id_article=2660
Loktera
October 19th, 2005 at 5:53 pm
A website with some details about that french film, in english… for those of us… that… speak… umm… english…
CptCarnage
October 20th, 2005 at 12:02 am
Yay my first commitment to the lost forums,
If you check the source code of http://www.thedharmainitiative.info/
you can find another reference to the page where the flash file comes from, and another Dharma site (that makes 3?)
http://www.kraftkost.se/
Igmolicious
October 20th, 2005 at 12:08 am
One thing that I found today on bigspaceship1.com is that when I took a screen shot, pasted it into Photoshop, and adjusted the contrast to +100 and the brightness to -29 a picture of a scorpion appeared below the polar bear. You can view the results here: http://pages.uindy.edu/~stclairlp/WTF.png
Amanda
October 20th, 2005 at 11:42 pm
I don’t see a scorpion at all when I take it into photoshop…
Johan
October 21st, 2005 at 5:50 am
To see the scorpion the best thing is to use the magic wand and then click below the polar bear in the biggest whita space you can find and the adjust the contrast. The scorpion will appear!
D
October 21st, 2005 at 10:46 am
Oh hey look at that - a scorpion really does appear. Of course I have even less of an idea as to what that is supposed to mean, but it does work.
Dr.Kandell
October 21st, 2005 at 2:01 pm
You all must know. BS1 is our connection to
Hello, from Dharma Industries. The websites have nothing to do with our system
Tell Desmond
Katie
October 21st, 2005 at 9:32 pm
I think thedharmainitiative.org is bogus. It’s registered to someone in Scottsdale, Arizona, unlike the official Hanso one which is registered to ABC. Also, the source code for the login window says input type=”text” name=”errorMessage”.
BrentM
October 22nd, 2005 at 5:53 pm
thedharmainitiative.info is bogus, too. the domain is registered to someone in Sweden. Who really cares about these unofficial sites?
Garth
October 23rd, 2005 at 4:10 pm
The http://www.bigspaceship1.com flash file has changed. It is now a bunny and a high pitched voice repeating incoherant things. Eventually, it will say “Here is the secret message:” And is followed by numbers. These are the only numbers that I got, and I will remind you that they may not be 100% accurate.
12, 2, 7, 12, 13, 18, 14, 9, 8, 4, 18, 12, 6, 8, 9, 22, 14, 20, 8, 12, 9, 19, 19, 5, 8, 18, 15, 8, 10, 4, 12, 20, 10, 12, 17, 17, 14, 19, 18, 21, 8, 14, 19, 7, 17, 18, 14, 14, 9, 5, 20, 12, 12, 18, 5, 8, 21, 4, 22, 7, 8, 1, 6, 12, 18, 4, 7, 19, 5, 12, 19, 4, 18, 12, 22, 11, 20, 18, 22, 23, 14, 20, 19, 12, 2, 7, 12, 18, 16, 14, 1, 8, 4, 18. After this, I gave up because the numbers just kept going.
Kerri
October 24th, 2005 at 12:38 am
Bigspaceship1 is now what looks like a red backwards 28 or something and a midget voice singing a freaky song about being cuddly.
Kerri
October 24th, 2005 at 10:27 am
Regarding mrclucks.com, I’m convinced now that it’s a hoax. On the site, at the bottom where it usually reads, “Website by 4815 Designs”….it flashes the text, “Website by not by ABC……by someone who knowz”. (the typo is in there, that wasn’t me). Anyway, if you click it, you go to the ipod page that has been there but there’s a button underneath…”Seacrest Out”. So I click it and it takes me to another site, a blog site and if you notice, there’s an article about Ryan Seacrest. The article is by Anna and if you click her name…here’s what you get….
“Anna is a former television producer and radio news director who lowered her standards to join her husband in a crazy internet experiment.”
So I’m thinking…..am I now part of her crazy experiment? She lowered her standards for moi ??????? And because I’m a female and so is Anna, I say out loud….”What a bitch”.
BrokenCitadel
October 27th, 2005 at 4:41 am
I just thought of something! If you read the theory on this page http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3012 , it make sense. BUT i also noticed they mentioned the ring of fire, which is the area around the teutonic plates etc. could the latin palindrome be a reference to this?
Pooped my pants
November 3rd, 2005 at 12:29 am
It looks like http://www.thehansofoundation.org is the only “real” lost website actually registered in ABC’s name. The rest are created by people bent on wasting our time in our search for spoilers.
That brings us to the real question. Why are we looking for these spoilers?
We are the equivalent of kids sneaking into mom and dads room before christmas and spying on our christmas presents.
Shame on us.
bj
November 5th, 2005 at 12:33 pm
plus on the hanso, site, if you go to their current projects or whatever the last link is, then open that page with the list of “initiatives” if you solowly move your most down past the last line of text you’ll find a link to the orientation video in an swf format. really poorly hidden though. and also it’s obvious it’s abc’s, if you look at the “terms of use” link, it goes to disney.
Heidi
November 10th, 2005 at 10:23 am
Does anyone know what to enter on the Dharma Initiative site once you get in? I had to enter the numbers, and now it is asking me for a Member ID.
deepeegee
November 11th, 2005 at 5:33 am
Could the scorpion symbol the dharma symbol for the zoology station?
I think the swan symbol in and around station 3 is a reference to Joseph Swan, a guy who had something to do with electromagnetism. I think each of the dharma symbols will reflect, or at leat indicate, some affinity with a figure in that particular field of endeavour. We know BF Skinner is one of them, (perhaps for the psychology station), wonder what that symbol could be? (The social utopia, Thomas More?)
Anyway, this (admittedly patchy) theory only works if someone can spot what the symbol is on the tail of the shark.
Maybe they refer to constellations?
Oh, I don’t know !
Mike
November 16th, 2005 at 6:30 pm
Im sorry, im new to all this.. bet you hate it when people say that!
but ive just been tryin to get into http://www.di9fftr731.com/ does anyone no if this is a genuine site or just another fake which some appear to be.. im past the IP check and im stuck on the login screen, its driving me nuts!
Anonymous
November 16th, 2005 at 6:33 pm
sara
November 16th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
http://www.di9fftr731.com/
On there, I get to the part where it asks for Member ID: and then I get stuck. If you try and fail 3 times, it locks the system. HELP please!
michael
November 17th, 2005 at 9:18 pm
what was the name of the crazt guy in the nut house that said the numbers over and over? i bet he was the one that was dow there at onr time try his name for the user id
UK_Others
November 23rd, 2005 at 4:22 am
I’m at the same stage as you mate.
Tried loads of times but with no luck!!
Juffr
November 24th, 2005 at 7:59 am
Latest title from http://www.bigspaceship.com
-.– — ..- .- .-. . - …. . — .- –. -. . - .- -. -.. .. .- — … - . . .-.. = YOU ARE THE MAGNET AND I AM THE STEEL T
Not sure what the T means, any ideas.
I am thinking though that the ‘button’ and tales of magnets and steel, any ideas?
bash
November 24th, 2005 at 10:21 am
hey, just sayin, the tail members (ana, ekko, and others) found a station with an arrow in the place of the swan, what station would that refer to?
e mail me with thereys(buchered that word)
makin13lucky@yahoo.com
dmax
November 27th, 2005 at 6:47 pm
New title at bigspaceship, and the link takes you to a book of baby names - the obvious of the choices being “Kate.”
The title of the page (originally in morse):
THREELITTLECHILDRENLAYININTHEBED TWOWERESICKANDTHEOTHERMOSTDEAD SENTFORTHEDOCTORTHEDOCTORSAIDFEEDTHOSECHILDRENONSHORTNINBREAD
BTW, Magnet and Steel is an old pop tune.
tebo
November 30th, 2005 at 10:45 pm
new bigspaceship title says “lets catch fish all day then the”
picture shows a light and a dark toy soldier fighting each other; caption underneath says “dark stone light stone”
Topher
December 3rd, 2005 at 1:50 am
dark stone light stone is refering to backgammon
Topher
December 3rd, 2005 at 9:43 am
could bigspaceship1 be a clue to the next episode? if so, could “dark stone light stone” be hinting at a theme based around backgamon?
judderz
December 3rd, 2005 at 7:57 pm
the six symbols although there might be seven represent star constalations like appola, swan etc…appolo was a god who had another six star signd related to him……. see below…
Cygnus: swan
Sagitta: arrow
Corvus: crow
Crater: goblet
Ophiuchus: serpent handler
Orion: hunter
Topher
December 4th, 2005 at 1:18 am
After talking about the show with my girlfriend and mom today, we noticed a curious correlation between the survivors and the numbers. the numbers are 4 8 15 23 42. the survivors were on oceanic flight 815, after the US Marshal died and the lady drouned in the begining of the first season there were 42 survivors in the front of the plane and before the others came, 23 in the tail of the plane
Juffr
December 5th, 2005 at 11:47 am
O peeeepssssss - has anyone tried this as yet, - is entered Michael Orteig into Google
http://www.driveshaftband.com/flight815_5.htm
frank
December 6th, 2005 at 3:26 pm
http://www.kraftkost.com genetic lost site
Steve Bicknell
December 6th, 2005 at 5:56 pm
Ok - the posts above are quite helpful. The numbers thing - you need to get the correct sequence of numbers and convert them to letters via the ASCII code - this will no doubt create another puzzling clue!!
With the Dharma entry page, u can just right click your mouse when the numbers (IP addresses) are flashing. Choose “loop” and “rewind” for the Flash Player. Keep clicking “forward”. This gets me in every time. As you have found, enter the code 4815162342 at the beeps. Now your asked for Member ID - I’m stuck from here, but will try apollo( like the link with the swan thing). If it works I’ll post back.
If anyone is a number cruncher, I have the full set of “IP addresses” in the correct order. I don’t think these are ASCII as there are some very high numbers. They are not IP addresses because I tried them. I am losing too much sleep over this BRILLIANT add-on to the programme!!.
Finally, I might be clutching at straws here, BUT the “ltr.press” link / letter refers to EINER RAGNARSSON. It later refers to him as EINERSSON. THis leaves the word RAGNAR. A search for RAGNAR will bring up results for vikings. One of the links http://www.ragweedforge.com/ has many links in light blue. However, there are 2 dark blue links. One is “Vikings and Nordic Culture” THis link shows a Viking weathervane with an explanation as to how it was used. There is a picture of a weathervane with RFoFR written on it. It looks like an image, but is a link. Click the link and a new page is shown with the same weathervane but now it has “RAGNAR” written on it., with a quote uncerneath of “My, aren’t you the inquisitive one. What caused you to click on the image? There was no indication that it was a link”!!!!
Going on from here “RFO.fr” will get you a french tv website (Shannon and Paris link possibly????)
Back to the viking website - the 2nd dark blue link is for “MORA KNIVES” (John Locke link possibly???)
I may be way off beam, but it’s got to be more than coincidence surely??? THat said I cannot find any links / disclaimers etc. associated with ABC or Disney.
Please help!!!
frank
December 6th, 2005 at 8:40 pm
http://globespotter.com
check it out ,,,, pretty interesting………..
Steve Bicknell
December 7th, 2005 at 12:37 pm
OK - I think the Dharma Industries thing is a no go for now, as there is no link or available valid Member ID. However, if you go to http://www.dharmainitiative.com/ there is something to see. Scroll down the page. At the bottom is what looks to be the source for input of co-ord’s / math equations (not sure yet). Just above this is a line. Hold down the left mouse button just below this line. Move the mouse up to the Swan logo. You should have revealed text regarding Phase 3: Disclosure. Good Luck hunting furtherand keep posting people.
Steve Bicknell
December 7th, 2005 at 12:52 pm
Also, on the Dharma Industries page (which I think is unbreakable for now), there’s a locked thread in the spoiler section from a guy calling himself “The Creator DI” called “I am the creator. The Truth will out, dharmaindustries.com”…
Anyway, he wrote the following encrypted text:
Quote:
dharmaindustries.com
yjr ytiyj eo;; piy om 33 fsud
fsu 5: fjst,somfidytord ermy pm;omr
fsu 9: o[ svvrd esd htsmyrf
fsu 26: vpmmrvyopm yp vpmytp; [smr; esd rmsn;rf
fsu 27: svvrd htsmyrf ejrm idrt rmyrtrf 5 9 26 27 34 53
fsu 34: ,r,nrtd ;phom eo;; nr rmsn;rf
fsu 53: yjr ytiyj eo;; piy
I am the creator of dharmaindustries.com i will be back after you have unlcoked my site to answer questions.
you decode the message by re-typing the message but move your hands over one key to the left to get:
the truth will out in 22 days
day 4: dharmaindustries went online
day 8: ip acces [sic] was granted
day 15: connection to control panel was enabled
day 16: acces [sic] granted when user entered 4 8 15 16 23 42
day 23: members login will be enabled
day 42: the truth will out
So it looks like we now have to wait for days 23 and 42 respectively!
Steve Bicknell
December 7th, 2005 at 12:53 pm
Also, on the Dharma Industries page (which I think is unbreakable for now), there’s a locked thread in the spoiler section from a guy calling himself “The Creator DI” called “I am the creator. The Truth will out, dharmaindustries.com”…
Anyway, he wrote the following encrypted text:
Quote:
dharmaindustries.com
yjr ytiyj eo;; piy om 33 fsud
fsu 5: fjst,somfidytord ermy pm;omr
fsu 9: o[ svvrd esd htsmyrf
fsu 26: vpmmrvyopm yp vpmytp; [smr; esd rmsn;rf
fsu 27: svvrd htsmyrf ejrm idrt rmyrtrf 5 9 26 27 34 53
fsu 34: ,r,nrtd ;phom eo;; nr rmsn;rf
fsu 53: yjr ytiyj eo;; piy
I am the creator of dharmaindustries.com i will be back after you have unlcoked my site to answer questions.
you decode the message by re-typing the message but move your hands over one key to the left to get:
the truth will out in 22 days
day 4: dharmaindustries went online
day 8: ip acces [sic] was granted
day 15: connection to control panel was enabled
day 16: acces [sic] granted when user entered 4 8 15 16 23 42
day 23: members login will be enabled
day 42: the truth will out
So it looks like we now have to wait for days 23 and 42 respectively!
Steve Bicknell
December 7th, 2005 at 1:54 pm
My last bit of delving for now has come up with the following on the Dharma Initiative site.
3SWAN
DI
Phase 3 Disclosure: The Dharma Initiative is not a secret international research project. You see, the island is part of another “dimension”, I guess you’d call it, and is sort of “in between” the universes that are made of light matter and dark matter. We call it “Dharma”. It’s part of a whole planet that is pretty much available for colonization. It could also be used as a future conduit for inter-dimensional/intergalactic travel. The only problem is that we can’t exist there naturally. The island only materializes when there’s a solar eclipse. During that time the unique electromagnetic frequency added to the gravitational distortion allows both it and us to exist within the same space. But that “effect only lasts for 108 minutes, and then the island disappears from our world, taking any inanimate matter with it that’s left behind.
If you were standing on the island after the primary eclipse period ended and the 108 minutes were up, you’d feel a great big suck of air and then “PLOP!” you’d fall right back into the ocean. Naked.We are trying to change that. Actually, Majestic 13 developed a machine years ago that allows us to exist there. It’s weird, but once us and the island “disappear” into the Dharma dimension, we have days and nights just like the earth one. But we can’t travel more than 42 kilometers outside the machine’s effective range.
The plan is to develop a way to genetically engineer animals with the right quantum frequency so they can exist in Dharma on their own. That’s what the project is all about, and until now it’s been classified.
The fictional tv series “Lost” is part of the worldwide disclosure plan.
49880
018
9
=
4.1.2.2.5.3.0.8.1.0
I am no programmer, but from what I can make out some value fields = ” - does this mean there are no values that the page will accept for now, therefore no links / no way to “Entrance” or “UnLocke” ????. Saying this there seems to be instructions to “this form”
Anhelp from programmers etc. who have any idea will be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Steve Bicknell
December 7th, 2005 at 2:37 pm
Just in case it isn’t blindingly obvious, for my above query you will have to go to http://www.dharmainitiative.com and right click the mouse. From this select view source. If your system glitches like mine on clicking the “Unlocke” button, you can debug - gives you the same info in whatever programme your debugger uses.
Michael McFadden
December 7th, 2005 at 5:54 pm
Ok this stuff is crazy!! Do you believe that the Driveshaft, bigspaceship1 and dharmainitiative sites are real? I think the DharmaIndustries is….but why would they tell us about the Island not really being there…and then mention the show itself? That breaks down the fourth wall and ruins the effect….unless this is all really true!!!
But seriously, any ideas?
Steve Bicknell
December 8th, 2005 at 7:33 pm
I am not sure yet as to whether the sites you mention are for real - In saying that there is no link to Disney / ABC - other REAL sites have a link somewhere (Disclaimer or something).
As with the Dharmaa thing I am now unconvinced as it says you can only access the Island during a solar eclipse. THERE WERE NO SOLAR ECLIPSES on Sep 22nd 2004, HOWEVER there is one due on SEP 22nd in 2006!!!
Finally, I have now just found a new message on the OCEANIC AIRLINES web page. It reads as follows :
If anyone should find this message, please get word I’m alive and stranded on an island somewhere in the South Pacific. Please send help soon. Things are bad. And they’re getting worse…
Sally
It is quite hard to spot, but is one of them hidden messages in the right hand corner near the top. You can see the letters “se” and “nd” in the white space!!!!
It’s all getting weirder and taking too much of my time!
billyinfinity
December 10th, 2005 at 6:31 am
in regards to the hidden message on the oceanic-air site there is also this message in the same source code as the sally message:
I survived a horrific plane crash and am stranded on an island somewhere Northeast of Australia and Southwest of Hawaii. In the event that I am never found, please forward word of my fate to my parents.
view the source and scroll all the way down to read the text.
Brett
December 18th, 2005 at 11:53 am
Hi, i have been trying to enter the Dharma Industries website (the flash one) with different member id’s. I have been doing so for the past few hours.
I got the first part easy, just use “the” numbers.
The member id thing is really bugging me.
If someone has a SWF viewer or something, maybe thay can check the actual swf file for some clues? Just a thought
Brian Heisler
December 28th, 2005 at 9:43 pm
Highlight the area of the secret messages on the oceanic-air site, hit CTRL-C and then paste (CTRL-V) to notepad or something.
Blake
January 3rd, 2006 at 12:04 am
in comment to billy infinity’s comment, on the part where the paragraph where they talk about closing the company, if you click the text at the bottom, that message appears between the lines of the company message.
Blake
January 3rd, 2006 at 12:06 am
there is another website address I just found… go here
http://www.di9fftr731.com/
spoiler
January 10th, 2006 at 3:21 pm
hello i have been looking at the dharma symble with the swan. i thought that the lines and dashed lines could be morse coad but then i thought it could be 1 and 0 for binary. each 8th being a number in biary makeing a 8 diget code… if u follow the swan from head round 3 digets across the body then clock wise up to the tail then accross the dharma name to the last diget u get 05372146 if the line with a gap is 0 and 72405631if the solid line is 1 could these be member id’s.
also if u put a different animal in the middle u could make different combinations of the 8 numbers.
alexwinter
January 13th, 2006 at 3:35 am
Binary and morse code, close. But each of the 3 lines (solid or broken) around any of the Dharma Initiative symbols represent a trigram, part of an I-ching hexagram. You’re right there are a total of 8 trigrams (2^3). I am unsure if you read them counterclockwise or up / down.
If counterclockwise the first hexagram would mean:
35. Chin
Progress
Flame Above Earth Below
You have considerable influence in the matter you are enquiring about. Be sure not to abuse this power for your own advantage. By using your influence to help those around you as well as yourself, you will be so much more in control of the situation.
http://www.uponreflection.co.uk/iching/iching_symbols/iching_symbols.htm
Stuart
January 13th, 2006 at 5:05 pm
Has anyone paid the $30 for the pre membership user ID card on dharmaindustries.com
eric
January 17th, 2006 at 4:52 am
last night (16/1 - 06 at 12.04 am) I visited http://www.bigspaceship1.com/
they had changed it’s cryptic message to a new morse code:
..-.-…–.-..–.-..–.-
then it was a message like this:
mordneratllaneninakativnedjlof
help me out!!
eric
January 17th, 2006 at 4:55 am
A NEW MESSAGE!!!!!
1000000007C0FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF37
:10001000FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF0
:10002000FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFE0
:10003000FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFD0
:10004000FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFC0
:10005000FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFB0
:10006000FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFA0
:10007000FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF90
:10008000FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF80
:10009000FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF70
:1000A000FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF60
:1000B000FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF50
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liam
January 17th, 2006 at 11:11 am
Where are you guys getting all this stuff from http://www.bigspaceship1.com all that it says on my is 1 word smartdust so were r u gettin all this stuff
Jimmy the Greek
January 17th, 2006 at 10:51 pm
I don’t know if anyonw has seen this already but on http://www.oceanicairlines.com/ you can go to Quick Search menu and click find with the info already there. This should bring up schematics for fligh 815. Once it has loaded u can interact with the plane and numbers etc.
- Its the numbers at the bottom that are the key -
Clicking them has no effect but if you click
4 8 15 16 23 24 in that order it brings up a video
The video says: THEY ARE NOT THE SURVIVORS
Flashing over nad over with some footage.
The it says they are not the survivors they thought they were and takes you to http://www.oceanicflight815.com/
What next?
Jimmy the Greek
January 18th, 2006 at 6:08 pm
On my last one I made a mistake its the numbers
I typed 24 its 42 srry
Cyre
January 23rd, 2006 at 10:31 pm
For the latest bigspaceship1 page it just says “smartdust”…try inputting http://www.smartdust.com in your browser!
Bad Bill
January 25th, 2006 at 8:40 pm
Smartdust is the smoke, look it up. Tinny computers as small as sand.
johnny
January 29th, 2006 at 2:49 pm
i know the id number
johnny
January 29th, 2006 at 2:50 pm
i know the id number the website is great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
johnny
January 29th, 2006 at 2:50 pm
if you want to know the id nnumber just ask
Seth
January 29th, 2006 at 3:01 pm
I’ll bite.
Johnny, what is the ID number?
Cyre
January 29th, 2006 at 4:21 pm
ID number for what website?
jason
January 29th, 2006 at 6:42 pm
Jonny wats the id please tell m8 plz ??
john
January 29th, 2006 at 10:56 pm
johnny lies!!
VAG
January 31st, 2006 at 8:23 pm
come on Man tell us the ID
LOL
February 1st, 2006 at 2:39 pm
if you go the oceanic-air.com site, go to quick search and click on pre board check in (green box) you come to a screen with ethan rom. if you re arrange those letters into other man then you get a little video of the others taking walt.
Cyre
February 10th, 2006 at 5:48 pm
What is a “bork”?
Jamie
February 12th, 2006 at 11:19 pm
I take it no one has figured out the Login on http://dharmaindustries.com/ yet, not that I have either, just making a notable observation. But going with the magnetic and alternate dimention theory, it doesn’t make sence that the scientist was so insistant that the computer not be used for communication. What if they are being studied, kind of like “Truman Show” Studied, wouldn’t that make more sense? Just a thought. and oh yea, this is cool too. http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~andorfc/iowa_mural.html
Jamie
February 15th, 2006 at 2:47 pm
I think I had forums going when I posted the above entry. Sorry about that, but I am still trying to figure out the log in, I think I may break down and pay $30
carorock
February 16th, 2006 at 12:58 pm
I think the polar bear comment (… — — . - .. — . … / .- / .–. — .-.. .- .-. / -… . .- .-. / .. … / .— ..- … - / .- / .–. — .-.. .- .-. / .–. . .- .-.
Here’s the translation of that morse code:
Sometimes / A / Polar / Bear / Is / Just / A / Polar / Pear
“Sometimes a Polar Bear is just a Polar Pear”
Doesn’t make sense to me, but I’m not the producers of Lost. Maybe it works as a code on oceanicflight815.com?
No dice. I tried ’sometimesapolarbearisjustapolarpear’ and ’sometimesapolarbearisjustapolarbear’ - neither worked.
If you’ve got other clues about logging in to the official or unofficial fan sites, leave a comment.
Also, if you’re interested, I’m selling Dharma Initiative T-Shirts!
UPDATE: Hunter Maxim in the comments notes that Big Spaceship1.com has changed it’s cryptic message to the following morse code:
.. -. / –. .. .-. ..- — / .. — ..- … / -. — -.-. - . / . - / -.-. — -. … ..- — .. — ..- .-. / .. –. -. ..
He translates the message as the following: “In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni”
Information on this riddle of a Latin palindrome here.
“We go into the circle by night and we are consumed by fire.”)
is actually the morse code around the design of the dharma initiative… you know, that’s on the capsule?
see: http://thedharmainitiative.org/
katie
February 17th, 2006 at 12:02 am
The guy who “rescued” desmond was called kelvin or calvin or however its spelt.
alex
February 17th, 2006 at 1:10 am
the latest bigspaceship1 page is about hireogliphs. down the bottom of the page it says Saqqara Technology. Saqqara is the ancient eqyptian city of the dead. any clues in there?
Mostly Muppet Dot Com
February 17th, 2006 at 10:11 am
Mostly Muppet in the AJC!…
Thanks to Phil Kloer for including me in his article, TV’s latest phenom is awash with theories, questions and very few answers. The article won’t appear in the print version of the paper until Sunday’s Arts section, but you can read …
Dennis
February 17th, 2006 at 1:55 pm
about the hireogliphs, the last episode 2/15 shown the hireogliphs when the clock ran out of time, and the enter button was hit, and it reset back to 108 did anybody else see that?
Dennis
February 17th, 2006 at 2:33 pm
if anybody has recorded the episode from 2/15 when it shows the hireogliphs on the number clock at the end of the show goto BigSpaceship1.com because it is about hierogliphs, see if there is a code to this…
Mo
February 19th, 2006 at 5:03 pm
If you’ve already figured the following out, I apologize for the repetitiveness:
If you select all (ctrl-A) on the oceanic-air site (www.oceanic-air.com), and then paste (ctrl-V) the entire thing into word the following images/info come up:
• In the section for the “LEAVE” date, the first entry is “SEPT 22″
Then from there, each month corresponds to its calendar number (i.e. - JAN 1, FEB 2, etc). However, the list continues to list numbers beyond DEC, from 13 - all the way to 31
• Directly beneath that are times listed, beginning with 2:55pm, which is the time of departure for Flight 815. It counts the hours after 2:55 starting with the 0:00 hour in military time, but stops at 23:00
• Continuing down, in the “TRAVELLERS” section, the “numbers” come up again in the spaces indicating adults, seniors, youth, etc.
• Here’s where it gets interesting. Only after selecting and pasting in Word (or another word processing program) did I see two of Michael’s drawings and Claire’s flight ticket.
• Michael’s drawings are of him in the hospital with the b-day cake on his lap (the card that he made for Walt). And the second picture is one he drew of New York City with the Statue of Liberty
• Finally, as someone already pointed out, two hidden messages appear and they say the following:
“If anyone should find this message, please get word I’m alive and stranded on an island somewhere in the South Pacific. Please send help soon. Things are bad. And they’re getting worse…
Sally”
“I survived a horrific plane crash and am stranded on an island somewhere Northeast of Australia and Southwest of Hawaii. In the event that I am never found, please forward word of my fate to my parents.”
Let me know if you have any thoughts or insight.
Kevin
February 25th, 2006 at 3:01 pm
Now bigspaceship is about Heigroglyphics. I think mabye each important episode they give you an important clue to the next and mabye to the whole show.
Pointman
February 27th, 2006 at 1:33 pm
Yeah… after the last episode the hieroglyphs come in mind… and that frigging http://www.gameset.com/Resources/Unicode/pdf/EGPZ-BMP-0.1.pdf page that gives me creeps since I see it for the 7th time (?) since the start of “Lost” research?
Pointman
February 27th, 2006 at 9:23 pm
OK. I’ve found Gardiner font set (actually, 5 of them). Spent some time trying to figure out the offsets. Then my rig crashed. Blame the kinky Power Supply box, but then again, I’ve almost spilled my beer over the keyboard. Creepy.
That set of glyphs is arranged into offset table. The whole thing looks like another leech-some-more-cash joint (since you cannot simply d/l the software - it’s supposed to be shipped after paypal donation) - anyway, it’s still looks like some kind of encryption.
And that’s the place where I fail.
Pointman
February 27th, 2006 at 10:13 pm
Ok.
1 Segment 8 Fx01 ?
2 ???
3 Segment 9 Fx01 ?
4 Segment 3 0×06 or 3×06 ?
5 Segment 10 9×04 ?
Dan
February 28th, 2006 at 9:59 am
The LAST word of the polar bear riddle is “PEAR”, but what if it means, “PAIR”? Would that help to decipher anything?
Also, my theory of the “We enter inot the circle” riddle is this:
What if “we enter into the circle at night” means we enter the circle of “darkness” or evil. So, “we enter into the circle of evil (HELL??). We are consumed by fire”. Maybe the second part is basically, we reap what we sow.
Final translation: “we willingly embrace evil to survive, but we are consumed and/or destroyed by the same evil we embraced”.
I don’t know. I’m reaching. If you don’t mind, I’d like for any of you to email me with ideas or just to hypothesize with me at chucklez3_2000@yahoo.com.
just my 2 cents
Truth
February 28th, 2006 at 11:08 pm
last night i visited http://www.dharmainitiative.com/
and found some blacked out text below the margin - it was more of that morse code stuff you guys keep going on about - i forgot to save the text - but i translated it - and it said something about, if you want to know more information - then something about SKYPE and accessing it at 2300 hours on the 13th of march (or was it the 11′th?, or possibly the 17th?) and it stated the server as “Nautilus7″
sorry about the details being a little sketchy - but i’m running on memory here - i think this may be important - and as i dont have skype - i am leaving this up to you guys. i checked it again today, but the message was no longer there.
Truth
February 28th, 2006 at 11:10 pm
i anyone wants to contact me about this - e-mail me at beigegummybear@hotmail.com - i know my info’s shoddy - and i should have copied the message, but trust me- i’m hitting myself right now.
b
March 2nd, 2006 at 10:42 am
So, bigship1.com’s message is smartdust. Same thing at smartdust.com. Looking up smart dust, I found this:
“Smart dust” devices are tiny wireless microelectromechanical sensors (MEMS) that can detect everything from light to vibrations. Thanks to recent breakthroughs in silicon and fabrication techniques, these “motes” could eventually be the size of a grain of sand, though each would contain sensors, computing circuits, bidirectional wireless communications technology and a power supply. Motes would gather scads of data, run computations and communicate that information using two-way band radio between motes at distances approaching 1,000 feet.
Potential commercial applications are varied, ranging from catching manufacturing defects by sensing out-of-range vibrations in industrial equipment to tracking patient movements in a hospital room.
Ann
March 2nd, 2006 at 7:08 pm
Everyone seems to have forgotten that Desmond ran off and was never seen again!!! It’s very likely that the “in between” dimension is a relavent theory but certainly not REAL!!!
foundoutbutcanttell
March 6th, 2006 at 3:43 am
I no it, cant say, i have been reading your comments for weeks now, i enjoy it very much. Dharma has something to do with Buddhism, thats how my trial started in finding this all out. Locke knows somehting, it pretty much told us in one of the episodes of season one, the monster approached him, then it went to an add break, never showed what happened after that.
Desmond is one of the Others
LLoyd was a trator
Clair was right
Jack is “lost”
Walt is gone…
foundoutbutcanttell
March 6th, 2006 at 3:46 am
does me being up at 3:43 mean something as well???
foundoutbutcanttell
March 6th, 2006 at 5:14 am
from thw website
http://www.kraftkost.com/pages/1/index.htm
ERROR ERROR…………………………………………………………………………………………….ERROR ERROR………..9*&^&&%sun*^*(*)((*&(*…………………………………………………………………………………..
wonder what that means????
foundoutbutcanttell
March 6th, 2006 at 5:21 am
smart dust = secruirty system = around island = reason for monsters only moving and making noises in certain area’s
totally lost
March 6th, 2006 at 2:15 pm
hmm.. someone deleted my clue :o
foundoutbutcanttell, that “monster” is same as in mr. Eko’s case, show creators just didn’t want to show it yet
lost in the jungle
March 7th, 2006 at 3:33 am
what that guy said about smart dust is correct, go look up smart dust on google.. it will tell ya its right
i was the pilot_oceanic_815
March 7th, 2006 at 3:35 am
whos Mr. Eko?
furio471
March 9th, 2006 at 11:36 am
mr eko is the nigey dude
lost in the jungle
March 10th, 2006 at 2:17 am
theres really not much of a mystery behind him. the real mystery is wih Locke i reckon…
Pang Tong
March 15th, 2006 at 2:34 pm
Hey guys found some information :D
whilst looking through some LOST sites, I came across Bouvet Island it’s in the same place the Oceanic Air person said it should be…
and also, it states:
On September 22, 1979, a satellite recorded a flash of light (which was later interpreted as having been caused by a nuclear bomb explosion or natural event such as a meteor) in a stretch of the southern Indian Ocean between Bouvet Island and Prince Edward Islands. This detonation, since dubbed the Vela Incident, scattered radioactive debris over a wide area (it was detected by scientists in the Australian Antarctic Territory).
September 22nd, same date the plane departed..
Seth
March 15th, 2006 at 2:55 pm
Bouvet Island is SW of South Africa and is mostly covered in glaciers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouvet_Island
Also, if you believe in the significance of the numbers as GPS coordinates, then Bouvet Island (54°26′S 3°24′E) is very far off from 4° 48′ 54.00″ 162° 20′ 31.20″
totally lost
March 15th, 2006 at 6:40 pm
have you heard the theorie that says the island is moving and that would explain why black rock is on the island and drug-plane crashed to the island on the way to america from africa
Cyre
March 24th, 2006 at 7:28 pm
Why does no messages I type here ever show up here?
Cyre
March 24th, 2006 at 7:29 pm
Oh, I guess they are now. Anyway, bigspaceship1 has now “time god” as the text.
Ok…that’s Kronos. What about Kronos?
Scoop
March 28th, 2006 at 3:28 am
Regarding “smart dust”… if anyone has read Phillip Pullman’s His Dark Materials series, you know that he uses Dust as another name for Dark Matter. And dust is concious (or smart). Moreover, he tells us that I Ching provides a method of talking to these concious particles. And of course the series goes into multidimentional worlds etc… interesting to think about the two. Perhaps the writers borrowed a bit from his books and the plane came into a different “world” where the island exists. Perhaps a world the Dharma Initiative opened with their experiments. And perhaps they’re populating this new world with people they’ve carefully selected.
Fabio
March 28th, 2006 at 2:55 pm
Does anyone knows if it´s mean something this numbers?
4-8-15-16-23-42
1 1 2 2 3 4 4 5 6 8
123456 ? 8
Fabio
March 28th, 2006 at 2:57 pm